Here, two sexual educators discuss the under-explored intersection of queer identity and pelvic-floor dysfunction.

Thats certainly been the case for both Hamel and myself.

Even so, the condition continues to impact our sense of identity.

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Gabrielle Kassel:Clark!

You and I had been following each other on Instagram for awhile.

But it wasnt until I started sharing in my Stories about my hypertonic pelvic floor that we actually connected.

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Clark Hamel:Yep!

I felt so much relief knowing that other peoplespecifically other queer peopleexperience it, too.

But still, the sex was incredibly painful.

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Can you share a little more about how you came into your diagnosis?

It was ultimately something else altogether that led me to a diagnosis.

I went to the ER and they did an internal ultrasound and found all this cystic fluid.

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The emergency room doctors told me to see a gynecologist.

So, I went.

Yes, yes, and yes.

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GK:And from there, did the gynecologist recommend that you work with a pelvic-floor therapist?

I thought they would be all up in there, but that wasnt the case at all.

GK:I had the same preconceived notions about invasiveness when I first began working with a pelvic-floor therapist.

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After watching me move, she told me she suspected that I had a hypertonic pelvic floor.

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She realized that I couldnt, and thats when I received my official diagnosis.

We did a lot of talking about how the pelvic floor works.

She described it in a way that allowed me to understand just how interconnected all that musculature is.

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But it was the first time that I understood how crucial that was to my overall well-being.

When I receive penetration or sit to pee, I now practice breathing and relaxing into the moment.

She also suggested that I begin working withvaginal dilatorsto learn how to relax around something in my pelvic floor.

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Using dilators definitely felt very clinical, but was a really important part of my recovery.

GK:Its been three years since I first received my diagnosis.

And for the most part, I have the condition managed.

My muscles are a lot more malleable and able to contract and relax and they used to be.

And it impacts who I am actively seeking partnership with.

CH:What youre saying makes a lot of sense.

My diagnosis has definitely affected things around my gender.

For me, theres this current of shame associated with my diagnosis.

I held in my peea lotand that required a lot of use of my pelvic-floor muscles.

And thats probably a component of why I have this condition to begin with.

In terms of how my condition impacts the sex I have?

Often, people assume penetrative play isnt on the table.

But I actually really like my vagina and often like to incorporate it into sex.

GK:These days, I have to give myself a lot of words of affirmation.

Ahead of most penetrative sexual encounters, I affirm out loud: I am bisexual!

I think people experience queer imposter syndrome or bi imposter syndrome for a variety of reasons.

And my pelvic-floor condition is just another one of the reasons that I experience it.

By actively affirming my own sexuality, Im slowly learning to stop those biphobic thoughts in their tracks.

CH:I love what youre saying about being able to affirm your sexuality for yourself.

I attempt to do the same.

And also, Ill say that trusting partners has been essential, too.

GK:I love that degree of communication.

CH:Its always wonderful to talk with you and connect with you on this topic.

GK:Likewise, Clark.

Interview has been edited for length and clarity.

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